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And then theres aristocrat decks, which are all about sacrificing your own creatures

Halimar Excavator Ha

Blue's milling tends to come in two mechanical parts: spells that mill numerous cards once, and permanents, most often creatures, that can repeatedly mill smaller amounts of cards

Bismuth Mindrender Speaking of stealing cards, there's a high chance that Bismuth Mindrender can use its opponent's cards against them

The card feels somewhat winmore and its not unreasonable for the table to throw removal towards it because it will draw you 6 cards per turn rotation in a 4-player EDH pod if everyone takes a regular turn without drawing extra cards themselves